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Mark Forums Read. Questions If you are a professional pilot or your work involves professional aviation please use this forum for questions. Enthusiasts, please use the 'Spectators Balcony' forum. Thread Tools. What has happened to the charts. When did all this change. Where has aerad gone. Where have all the notes gone at the bottom of the charts. What are these busts heights on the SIDs now? Half the print is unreadable even in my state of life. Help, can anyone help an old codger and point them in the right direction as to where the new legend is.
I couldn't find one on board. It looks like a Jeppesen chart, gord help us. I've also noticed CAT A minima missing. Not good for the boys in the thick of it. View Public Profile. Find More Posts by Facelookbovvered. Your Company should have warned you about this. Find More Posts by fleecy. To quote their intro splurge in the info booklet my company gave out to us about a month ago; "The focus of our development has been to create a modern chart specification, taking into consideration recent research and our vast experience as a chart maker.
We believe we have taken a step into the future, bringing you the most modern and easy to use aeronautical chart product in the market. Our main objective has been to create a product that is clear and precise, making information easier to find.
Last edited by K. Whyjelly; 6th Aug at Reason: hopefully answering Topslides Q. Find More Posts by K. Also the takeoff minimas looks jeppesen style now Have fun. Find More Posts by dkz. Absolute disaster. Can't even recognise my home base anymore. Meddling for the sake of bureaucracy.
I'd hate to have to use it in a hurry! What "research" - no one's asked ME!!! Find More Posts by moist. Carnage Matey! They've also named the airfields after their name in the local lingo rather than English, so you'd better be able to remember you're diverting to Wien and not Vienna when the cockpit fills up with smoke. Find More Posts by Carnage Matey!
Bruce Wayne. We believe we have taken a step into the future. Find More Posts by Bruce Wayne. Spunky Monkey. I must admit that I find them easier to read. They are less haphazard than the old one, with the SSA in one place rather than in the corners or in a rose. The ILS freq are also easier to find. Although I have only recently moved from the Jepps.
In my coy nobody really liked the aerads. Have to agree about the Wein issue, would it be too difficult to have both names? Ready to have my head shot off Last edited by Spunky Monkey; 6th Aug at Reason: spelling. Find More Posts by Spunky Monkey. Spunky, You can't see the ILS frequency and ident unless you're very young!
We, over 50s need nice big numbering, lettering. The previous chart was just fine. The idiot that thought these up, has never been in a cockpit that's for sure! Jetstream Rider. I've just had a look at the powerpoint presentation, not seen a real chart yet, but there are some improvements over current Aerad charts. Names of places are in local language - disaster!
I have no idea what a load of places are called in their own language - how do I find them? I'm sure I'll come across more when I actually use them. Find More Posts by Jetstream Rider. New Aerads. All the staff in Stockholm think they are more like Aerad and vice versa.
The new format is also compatible with the navigation database and will make it possible to meet the quality and traceability standards expected from Eurocontrol.
Aerad UK was the only supplier that attempted to anglicize the names. This always caused overseas customers considerable difficulty. Try telling an Italian airline that its capital city is Rome. Lets call it globalisation. Altitude - The altitude information is significantly better. The text size is greater than either previous format and they actually state the altitude limitation. The inverse presentation of the altitude bust height is retained.
Call it safety and employment continuity come to that. It is retained for those airlines which prefer this format. Terrain contours with spot heights is an option and is much easier to produce by the way because it is supplied in the AIP. Call it flexibility. Call it democracy. They read this column so provide feedback to Patrick. Find More Posts by Chart8R. Well I used them for the first time today and they are pretty abysmal, took me 5 minutes to locate the ILS morse ident, took another 5 minutes to find the airfield elevation, the minima's at the bottom are just bloody confusing, listing for the airfields we went to today anyway CAT III minima's first.
There's too much clutter in the vertical profiles of the approach charts. The chart is rather disjointed in places and is certainly a small step backwards for now. What's with the chart numbers now? How much consultation was taken with the people who actually use these things?
As a side note a quick glance at the PDF file posted above shows charts that are slightly more eligible than the two I had to read today, so certainly alot of variation dependent on the airfield being visited. On a positive note the ground pages are more concise. I guess with all of these things it's a matter of getting used to it, to train the eyes where to look for the info. Visit Deano's homepage! Find More Posts by Deano Since the charts are tailored to specific airlines, why not tailor the names at the top of the charts as well?
If you put the names in English, then they are all there in a standard ICAO language, if you put them in their own language, that's going away from standard by utilising many different languages. Non English speakers have to learn English for the notes, by your argument we should put them all in the local language. Its a step backwards. Its like calling East Midlands, "Nottingham", no one can find it, which is why it changed its name back to East Midlands.
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An aeronautical chart is a map designed to assist in navigation of aircraft , much as nautical charts do for watercraft, or a roadmap for drivers. Using these charts and other tools, pilots are able to determine their position, safe altitude, best route to a destination, navigation aids along the way, alternative landing areas in case of an in-flight emergency, and other useful information such as radio frequencies and airspace boundaries. There are charts for all land masses on Earth, and long-distance charts for trans-oceanic travel. Specific charts are used for each phase of a flight and may vary from a map of a particular airport facility to an overview of the instrument routes covering an entire continent e. Visual flight charts are categorized according to their scale , which is proportional to the size of the area covered by one map. The amount of detail is necessarily reduced when larger areas are represented on a map. When an aircraft is flying under instrument flight rules IFR , the pilot will often have no visual reference to the ground, and must therefore rely on internal e.
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